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THEMA: LS_Models-> Making Lichter in Eisenbahnwaggon
Vadim - 21.05.12 11:57
Hello.
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Nun machte ich mich Lichter in LS_Models RZD Personenwagen.
Jeder Wagen verfügt über eine DCC-Decoder und funktionale Licht reflektierende Platte.
Decoder verfügt über Kondensator und Stabilisator des Stroms.
Er arbeitet als Anti-System zu blinken!
Erst im letzten Wagen hat hinten leuchtet.
Oberer Teil des Innenraum wurde im Ziel, Installation, Licht reflektierenden Platte gelöscht
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Now i made lights in LS_Models RZD passenger railroad cars.
Each car has a DCC functional decoder and light-reflecting plate.
Decoder has capacitor and stabiliser of current.
It works as anti-blinking system!
only last car has back lights .
Upper part of interior was deleted in aim to instal light-reflecting board
Pictures:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6210/5475818.a/0_6f3c9_945ce843_XXXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6210/5475818.a/0_6f3c6_9021cb74_XXXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6210/5475818.a/0_6f3c7_a220d734_XXXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6305/5475818.a/0_6f3c8_7d8fc829_XXXL
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mIah6GNi0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Lt5HzigHQ
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Vadim
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Nun machte ich mich Lichter in LS_Models RZD Personenwagen.
Jeder Wagen verfügt über eine DCC-Decoder und funktionale Licht reflektierende Platte.
Decoder verfügt über Kondensator und Stabilisator des Stroms.
Er arbeitet als Anti-System zu blinken!
Erst im letzten Wagen hat hinten leuchtet.
Oberer Teil des Innenraum wurde im Ziel, Installation, Licht reflektierenden Platte gelöscht
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Now i made lights in LS_Models RZD passenger railroad cars.
Each car has a DCC functional decoder and light-reflecting plate.
Decoder has capacitor and stabiliser of current.
It works as anti-blinking system!
only last car has back lights .
Upper part of interior was deleted in aim to instal light-reflecting board
Pictures:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6210/5475818.a/0_6f3c9_945ce843_XXXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6210/5475818.a/0_6f3c6_9021cb74_XXXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6210/5475818.a/0_6f3c7_a220d734_XXXL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6305/5475818.a/0_6f3c8_7d8fc829_XXXL
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mIah6GNi0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Lt5HzigHQ
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Vadim
Autoreisezug - 21.05.12 13:08
Hi Vadim,
thank you for posting the pictures and links of the videos. The pictures of the train by night looks very realistic to me. I like it very much!
Great modification of the cars.
Could you be so kind to give me/us detailed information about the modification and how you do it. e.g. take off the current from bogies.
BR.
Olaf
thank you for posting the pictures and links of the videos. The pictures of the train by night looks very realistic to me. I like it very much!
Great modification of the cars.
Could you be so kind to give me/us detailed information about the modification and how you do it. e.g. take off the current from bogies.
BR.
Olaf
Thanks, Olaf!
1) I made current pickup from all 8 wheels through needles.
1A) Axles were separated into 2 parts by isolator.
1B) Copper lameles with bearing were inserted.
See this principal at photo for current pickup making for another model
(see cars 2 and 3. Cars 1 is not so good idea):
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vadimav/view/321377?page=0
But the idea is the same.
1C) Functional decoders were supplied with power pack capacitor 200mkf
1D) Consequently to 2 interior LEDs a current 10ma stabilizers(SMD 0402 with 2 pins) were inserted. It leads to strong antiblinking effect using capacitor power up to full discharge without fading of light!
1E) A 3 very small leds are glued to back light holes and connected to 2 thin lameles at roof. small springs are touching it when car is closed.
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Vadim
1) I made current pickup from all 8 wheels through needles.
1A) Axles were separated into 2 parts by isolator.
1B) Copper lameles with bearing were inserted.
See this principal at photo for current pickup making for another model
(see cars 2 and 3. Cars 1 is not so good idea):
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/vadimav/view/321377?page=0
But the idea is the same.
1C) Functional decoders were supplied with power pack capacitor 200mkf
1D) Consequently to 2 interior LEDs a current 10ma stabilizers(SMD 0402 with 2 pins) were inserted. It leads to strong antiblinking effect using capacitor power up to full discharge without fading of light!
1E) A 3 very small leds are glued to back light holes and connected to 2 thin lameles at roof. small springs are touching it when car is closed.
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Vadim
Good work Vadim,looks great.
The station in your video too.
Regards,
Sascha.
The station in your video too.
Regards,
Sascha.
Thanks, Sascha!
Main idea of my layout - is automatic, dependable and realistic movement of trains.
I m not so good in decorating layout. Often, i do it maximally simply.
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Vadim
Main idea of my layout - is automatic, dependable and realistic movement of trains.
I m not so good in decorating layout. Often, i do it maximally simply.
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Vadim
Hi Vadim,
good job, thanks for showing! A perfect imitation of that typical fluorescent light.
Best wishes
Carsten
good job, thanks for showing! A perfect imitation of that typical fluorescent light.
Best wishes
Carsten
Thanks, Carsten.
In this modern RZD cars i use cool white LEDs
But for old Amendorfcars i use warm white LEDs:
See picture:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6307/5475818.a/0_6f09b_a1427409_orig
This is a small video of Amendorfs mooving :
The empty train is uploading into dead-end station way for new passengers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQfk1_fbs4
And
The train with amendorfs is leaving the station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLysxcqXwrc
(Compare stable ammendorf's light with unstable single car one)
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Vadim
In this modern RZD cars i use cool white LEDs
But for old Amendorfcars i use warm white LEDs:
See picture:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6307/5475818.a/0_6f09b_a1427409_orig
This is a small video of Amendorfs mooving :
The empty train is uploading into dead-end station way for new passengers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQfk1_fbs4
And
The train with amendorfs is leaving the station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLysxcqXwrc
(Compare stable ammendorf's light with unstable single car one)
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Vadim
Hallo Vadim,
hast Du das Schlechtläuferproblem der RZD-Modelle auch gleich zusammen mit der Elektrifzierung der Achsen gelöst? Hast Du die elektrisch geteilten Achsen selbst gemacht oder irgendwo erworben? Und wie hast Du die Achsspitzstromabnehemer hergestellt?
Здравствуйте Вадим,
Вы решили проблему плохой езды вагонов моделей РЖД вместе с электролизацией осей? Ты сам сделал электричесие оси или где-то приобрел?
Как ты сделал эти медные токоприёмник, которые передают электричество от наконечников осей?
Gruß
Eglod
hast Du das Schlechtläuferproblem der RZD-Modelle auch gleich zusammen mit der Elektrifzierung der Achsen gelöst? Hast Du die elektrisch geteilten Achsen selbst gemacht oder irgendwo erworben? Und wie hast Du die Achsspitzstromabnehemer hergestellt?
Здравствуйте Вадим,
Вы решили проблему плохой езды вагонов моделей РЖД вместе с электролизацией осей? Ты сам сделал электричесие оси или где-то приобрел?
Как ты сделал эти медные токоприёмник, которые передают электричество от наконечников осей?
Gruß
Eglod
Hello Eglod!
Yes, these cars are mooving better now!
The current pickup setup(axles and lameles with bearings) can be taken from any KATO spare passenger trucks. These trucks has current pickup.
It is KATO who is one of a small quantity of supplyers who has a big number of spare parts.
KATO has 2 different distance between axles i have all kind of KATO spare trucks in aim to make current pickup in different cars.
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Vadim
Yes, these cars are mooving better now!
The current pickup setup(axles and lameles with bearings) can be taken from any KATO spare passenger trucks. These trucks has current pickup.
It is KATO who is one of a small quantity of supplyers who has a big number of spare parts.
KATO has 2 different distance between axles i have all kind of KATO spare trucks in aim to make current pickup in different cars.
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Vadim
Hallo Vadim,
was für Veränderungen musstest Du an den LS-Drehgestellen vornhemen, um das alles auf die KATO-Teile anpassen zu können?
Привет Вадим,
Что за изменения должен был ты сделать на LS- вращающейся ходовой части вагона, чтоб они подошли для KATO-частей?
Gruß
Eglod
was für Veränderungen musstest Du an den LS-Drehgestellen vornhemen, um das alles auf die KATO-Teile anpassen zu können?
Привет Вадим,
Что за изменения должен был ты сделать на LS- вращающейся ходовой части вагона, чтоб они подошли для KATO-частей?
Gruß
Eglod
Eglod, i use original LS models trucks, but conductive bearing and axles with electrically separated wheels were taken from KATO trucks and inserted to original ones.
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Vadim
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Vadim
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Es gibt die Bilder von
1) Bottoms von Drehgestell und elektrisch leitfähige Lager:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6212/5475818.a/0_6f563_66b0c415_XL
2) Innenansicht auf Hintergrundbeleuchtung LEDs und Lamellen, die unter Dach geklebt werden.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6305/5475818.a/0_6f566_27ced439_XL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6309/5475818.a/0_6f565_26abef9d_XL
3) Federn der Platine mit LEDs, die derzeit bis zum Heck LEDs zu übertragen, wenn das Auto geschlossen ist.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6306/5475818.a/0_6f564_3f59ff9_XXXL
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Vadim
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There is the pictures of
1) Bottoms of bogie and electrically conductive bearings:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6212/5475818.a/0_6f563_66b0c415_XL
2) Inside view on back light LEDs and lamellas which are glued under roof.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6305/5475818.a/0_6f566_27ced439_XL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6309/5475818.a/0_6f565_26abef9d_XL
3) Springs of board with LEDs which transfer current to stern LEDs when car is closed.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6306/5475818.a/0_6f564_3f59ff9_XXXL
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Vadim
Es gibt die Bilder von
1) Bottoms von Drehgestell und elektrisch leitfähige Lager:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6212/5475818.a/0_6f563_66b0c415_XL
2) Innenansicht auf Hintergrundbeleuchtung LEDs und Lamellen, die unter Dach geklebt werden.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6305/5475818.a/0_6f566_27ced439_XL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6309/5475818.a/0_6f565_26abef9d_XL
3) Federn der Platine mit LEDs, die derzeit bis zum Heck LEDs zu übertragen, wenn das Auto geschlossen ist.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6306/5475818.a/0_6f564_3f59ff9_XXXL
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Vadim
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There is the pictures of
1) Bottoms of bogie and electrically conductive bearings:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6212/5475818.a/0_6f563_66b0c415_XL
2) Inside view on back light LEDs and lamellas which are glued under roof.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6305/5475818.a/0_6f566_27ced439_XL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6309/5475818.a/0_6f565_26abef9d_XL
3) Springs of board with LEDs which transfer current to stern LEDs when car is closed.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6306/5475818.a/0_6f564_3f59ff9_XXXL
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Vadim
I think, that this is too robust method for backlights.
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Vadim
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Vadim
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