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THEMA: Repairing/Sounding Trix ICE-1 N12123(JPG,MP4)
THEMA: Repairing/Sounding Trix ICE-1 N12123(JPG,MP4)
Vadim - 26.06.12 17:15
Hello
At last, my hands are coming to my old 3-car N Trix N12123 ICE-1 with bad motor.
I lengthen it to 6 car train!
Now, train consists from 2 separate identical 3-car trains with hot locos, motor & sound.
Each sub-train has constant couplings with wires for current pickup joining in aim to achieve uninterruptable soung and good pickup!
One intermediate coupling, which join both sub-trains haven't any electrical joinings and easy uncoupleable!
New train are mooving as follows:
Departure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFuz9S3dyMs
Arrival:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi30aPXJgaI
Test of syncronoous move of 2 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWyUBuguEhE
DETAILS:
1)Motor test at 9V (idle running) :
TRIX motor - 350 mA
Maxon Kit for ICE-1- 7 mA!
There is no words for TRIX company!
2)
Old passenger car current electric pickup proceed strong brking, and one loco move 3 car train at hill 2.5% with strong difficulties!
I discard it at all!
I make needle-current conductive bearings for all wheels and axles with axle-isolators.
Now, one loco without traction tires can freely move 6 cars at 2.5% hill!
See picture how to make:
http://uploads.ru/?v=LzXwf.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=ayzPW.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=Vjqst.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=l57wr.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=Lc1Bl.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=QcYw7.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=6tHuj.jpg
3)Trucks were springed using old current pickup springs:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=0niVw.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=uVxEq.jpg
4) Old TRIX coupling disable vertical movements of cars and lead to crashes!
They were deleted.
I make my own couplings with wires in aim to allow cars freely move vertically:
See pictures:
http://uploads.ru/?v=LdVvq.jpg
5) There is a magnetic uncoupleable coupling between 2 sub-trains:
See pictures there:
http://uploads.ru/?v=wRiHb.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=OhneU.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=hHiO7.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=6y7bZ.jpg
6) LoudSpeaker were placed to fuel tank instead of pantograph switcher.
See pictures:
http://uploads.ru/?v=eNoQ0.jpg
7) Pantograph was joined to decoder's inside power via 2 diodes, in aim to pass reverse loops and give more stable power.
8) 2 Locos have tantalum powerpacks in aim to achieve uninterruptable sounds!
9) Loco has Axle-springing:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=eDqI6.jpg
10) Loco trucks also has springing:
See pictures:
http://uploads.ru/?v=ydTqC.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=zK1Nv.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=B5W0k.jpg
11) Old truck contact with loco body add noise and momentum. therefore it was substituted by wires:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=0DAMw.jpg
12)Opened loco with whole circuitry and decoder:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=KYCX6.jpg
13) Couples allow to store train as constrictor:
http://uploads.ru/?v=1yWZP.jpg
14) Total ICE 1 Photo at depot station:
http://uploads.ru/?v=t1q34.jpg
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15) Please ask Questions.
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Vadim
At last, my hands are coming to my old 3-car N Trix N12123 ICE-1 with bad motor.
I lengthen it to 6 car train!
Now, train consists from 2 separate identical 3-car trains with hot locos, motor & sound.
Each sub-train has constant couplings with wires for current pickup joining in aim to achieve uninterruptable soung and good pickup!
One intermediate coupling, which join both sub-trains haven't any electrical joinings and easy uncoupleable!
New train are mooving as follows:
Departure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFuz9S3dyMs
Arrival:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi30aPXJgaI
Test of syncronoous move of 2 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWyUBuguEhE
DETAILS:
1)Motor test at 9V (idle running) :
TRIX motor - 350 mA
Maxon Kit for ICE-1- 7 mA!
There is no words for TRIX company!
2)
Old passenger car current electric pickup proceed strong brking, and one loco move 3 car train at hill 2.5% with strong difficulties!
I discard it at all!
I make needle-current conductive bearings for all wheels and axles with axle-isolators.
Now, one loco without traction tires can freely move 6 cars at 2.5% hill!
See picture how to make:
http://uploads.ru/?v=LzXwf.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=ayzPW.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=Vjqst.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=l57wr.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=Lc1Bl.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=QcYw7.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=6tHuj.jpg
3)Trucks were springed using old current pickup springs:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=0niVw.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=uVxEq.jpg
4) Old TRIX coupling disable vertical movements of cars and lead to crashes!
They were deleted.
I make my own couplings with wires in aim to allow cars freely move vertically:
See pictures:
http://uploads.ru/?v=LdVvq.jpg
5) There is a magnetic uncoupleable coupling between 2 sub-trains:
See pictures there:
http://uploads.ru/?v=wRiHb.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=OhneU.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=hHiO7.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=6y7bZ.jpg
6) LoudSpeaker were placed to fuel tank instead of pantograph switcher.
See pictures:
http://uploads.ru/?v=eNoQ0.jpg
7) Pantograph was joined to decoder's inside power via 2 diodes, in aim to pass reverse loops and give more stable power.
8) 2 Locos have tantalum powerpacks in aim to achieve uninterruptable sounds!
9) Loco has Axle-springing:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=eDqI6.jpg
10) Loco trucks also has springing:
See pictures:
http://uploads.ru/?v=ydTqC.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=zK1Nv.jpg
http://uploads.ru/?v=B5W0k.jpg
11) Old truck contact with loco body add noise and momentum. therefore it was substituted by wires:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=0DAMw.jpg
12)Opened loco with whole circuitry and decoder:
See picture:
http://uploads.ru/?v=KYCX6.jpg
13) Couples allow to store train as constrictor:
http://uploads.ru/?v=1yWZP.jpg
14) Total ICE 1 Photo at depot station:
http://uploads.ru/?v=t1q34.jpg
--------------------
15) Please ask Questions.
===========
Vadim
Beitrag editiert am 26. 06. 2012 17:21.
Hi Vadim,
i had a look at your vids and pics. You did a great job. From my point of view it was a lot of work to improve the model. I don't have any ICE-train, so I have no knowledge, if other models are more sophisticated by manufaturer.
One question where I am not sure: you equipped both locos with sound?
Greetings AnTic
i had a look at your vids and pics. You did a great job. From my point of view it was a lot of work to improve the model. I don't have any ICE-train, so I have no knowledge, if other models are more sophisticated by manufaturer.
One question where I am not sure: you equipped both locos with sound?
Greetings AnTic
Thanks, AnTic.
Yes! Y equip both heads with sound!
I think that it's not so realistic when train moves backwards, and airhorn dont sounds from apropriate head!
I configure Sound-Decoders so that AirHorns sounds only from head loko which moving forvard and dont sounds from back head, and vice versa by reversing motion. Other noise sounds from both locos! They are hot!
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Vadim
Yes! Y equip both heads with sound!
I think that it's not so realistic when train moves backwards, and airhorn dont sounds from apropriate head!
I configure Sound-Decoders so that AirHorns sounds only from head loko which moving forvard and dont sounds from back head, and vice versa by reversing motion. Other noise sounds from both locos! They are hot!
---------
Vadim
Hi Vadim,
this makes your work even better.
I have a VT11.5 TEE with sound and, yes it is a bit funny if the sound comes (only) from the end of the train.
Greetings AnTic
this makes your work even better.
I have a VT11.5 TEE with sound and, yes it is a bit funny if the sound comes (only) from the end of the train.
Greetings AnTic
Yes, AnTic!
Long Bi-Head passenger's train models, like ICE-X, TGV, ER2, ED4MK, ET425, Long Talents and Desiros... etc - must have both heads with sounds, and having HORN sounds swichable from direction.
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Vadim.
Long Bi-Head passenger's train models, like ICE-X, TGV, ER2, ED4MK, ET425, Long Talents and Desiros... etc - must have both heads with sounds, and having HORN sounds swichable from direction.
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Vadim.
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